Re: The History Thread

by **iliander** Wed 8 Jun 2011 - 2:48

YES, most myths and legends are in fact HISTORY. Those ancient people knew what they wrote, they didn't just invented it, they were writing down history! IT wasn't fantasy for them, they talked serious about it. It' just that most myths (Or all myths) are slightly (Or a lot) changed during those thousands (Or hundreds) of years. It is ridiculous to not believe them if it just looks... unbelievable. Give me a myth, I will decipher it. iliander

PS: I'm NOT talking about folklore, a lot of folklore is in fact fantasy, to explain certain things. Or to make the children afraid, I am talking about mythology.

by **peugeot407** Wed 8 Jun 2011 - 3:02

Well, it all rather depends. When people write down what they experience doesn't necessarily mean it happened that way exactly. Take the film 300: All those Persian mutants are exactly as the Greeks thought of them, but that doesn't mean there were actually any mutants in the Persian army. It's largely the same with the amount of Persian soldiers.

@iliander: What about Atlantis?

peugeot407

by **iliander** Wed 8 Jun 2011 - 3:12

Well, it all rather depends. When people write down what they experience doesn't necessarily mean it happened that way exactly. Take the film 300: All those Persian mutants are exactly as the Greeks thought of them, but that doesn't mean there were actually any mutants in the Persian army. It's largely the same with the amount of Persian soldiers.

Of course it depends. But about the mutant thing, I'm sure that something of it must be true, in fact there were a lot of hybrid/mutant-like giant-sized humans. :lol: (Seriously) Like the Nephilim from the bible...

About Atlantis:
*** = "The Ones Who Are Forbidden To Speak About"

Atlantis wasn't a city, it was a country, the first country or base established by the ***. The Garden of Eden also was in Atlantis (Not sure). And it's not only Plato who writes about it. Rolling Eyes

Atlantis is described by all other ancient cultures, sometimes with other names. All myths are found in all cultures, those ancient cultures were all connected to each other, they even had airplanes! :affraid: (In Indian mythology there was a "golden age" where people would fly using special craft, there have also been some airplane-mooking models been found in South America) So if you would start with stopping to just ignore the stories because they are classified as "myth" and start reading and analyzing them, you would see that it is all just history, forbidden history.

by Paco the Great Wed 8 Jun 2011 - 3:40

Thing is, you can't know that you're right either. I believe most stories about mythological animals, like the giant hedgehog. Gorillas were thought to be a silly native African myth, until European explorers discovered them.

by **iliander** Wed 8 Jun 2011 - 3:56

Of course I can't know, but you still can assume.

by **peugeot407** Wed 8 Jun 2011 - 5:20

Well, I asked about it because I think it's not impossible for Atlantis to have existed. While I don't believe any of your, excuse me, nonsense, I do think it would have been possible for there to have been an island nation called Atlantis, colonised by the Greeks.

Speaking of myths, do you find it odd that the Vinlandsaga is regarded a myth by some? It's among the best proven historic events in the world, but still people regard it solely as a myth. Troy is actually quite similar, except there's slightly less evidence, but it would still be a massive coincidence if Troy was all made up.

peugeot407

by **iliander** Wed 8 Jun 2011 - 5:30

Well, I asked about it because I think it's not impossible for Atlantis to have existed. While I don't believe any of your, excuse me, nonsense, I do think it would have been possible for there to have been an island nation called Atlantis, colonised by the Greeks.

But that doesn't make sense at all. Just because it seems unlikely or too fantastic for you, shouldn't be a reason for blindly saying "I don't believe any of your nonsense". Although I respect your opinion, you have no proof for your opinion. If literally every ancient culture (Which were able to build buildings which we barely can) speaks about almost the exact same things, which include:

- Giants (The Mayans said that their Pyramids were build by a giant creature! :affraid: )
- Gods which came down from the heavens to the earth in flying chariots
- Large, silver birds (Airplanes???)
- Silver shields which attacked Alexander the GReat's army from the sky
- A golden age where people could fly in special craft
- A world-wide flood which wiped out most of the giants

I mean... common. I can provide some pictures if you want... ancient ufo depictions lol.

by Nero Wed 8 Jun 2011 - 9:58

bullsh*t bullsh*t bullsh*t , you are speaking nonsense, sorry to burst your bubble, but since your parents didn't do it for you when you where 8,

- Giants (The Mayans said that their Pyramids were build by a giant creature! )
- Gods which came down from the heavens to the earth in flying chariots
- Large, silver birds (Airplanes???)
- Silver shields which attacked Alexander the GReat's army from the sky
- A golden age where people could fly in special craft
- A world-wide flood which wiped out most of the giants

All wrong, give me evidence that isn't from a novel or religious text.

by arcalion Wed 8 Jun 2011 - 10:30

iliander wrote:I meant understandable, not ununderstandable. It is Arcalion.

sorry if i went off topic, but, remember that most of things in off topics forums are jokes... so dont get angry with my post, because all here made jokes to each others ....

by **Pepp** Wed 8 Jun 2011 - 11:02

Atlantis wasn't a city, it was a country, the first country or base established by the ***. The Garden of Eden also was in Atlantis (Not sure). And it's not only Plato who writes about it. Rolling Eyes Atlantis is described by all other ancient cultures, sometimes with other names. All myths are found in all cultures, those ancient cultures were all connected to each other, they even had airplanes! affraid (In Indian mythology there was a "golden age" where people would fly using special craft, there have also been some airplane-mooking models been found in South America) So if you would start with stopping to just ignore the stories because they are classified as "myth" and start reading and analyzing them, you would see that it is all just history, forbidden history.

It is not built by <You Know Who>. It is Poseidon.

Garden of Eden, based on the 3 Holy Books, located between the Euphrates and Tigris, and 2 other smaller river. It is in the Mesopotamia.

Golden-age: It is now...

- Giants (The Mayans said that their Pyramids were build by a giant creature! affraid )
- Gods which came down from the heavens to the earth in flying chariots
- Large, silver birds (Airplanes???)
- Silver shields which attacked Alexander the GReat's army from the sky
- A golden age where people could fly in special craft
- A world-wide flood which wiped out most of the giants

1. Maybe the Patagonian? They have big body alike a giant.
2. It must be a meteor (from an Atheist eye).
3. Comet Halley
4. Meteorites
5. Its today
6. Then the giants move to the mountains, some of them become Yeti of Himalaya.... I think no, I think what did they mean with giants are the big bodied animal, i.e. mammoth, emu, etc.

by Paco the Great Sun 3 Jul 2011 - 23:42

Folklore is the same thing as mythology.

by **iliander** Sun 3 Jul 2011 - 23:54

Giants (The Mayans said that their Pyramids were build by a giant creature! )
- Gods which came down from the heavens to the earth in flying chariots
- Large, silver birds (Airplanes???)
- Silver shields which attacked Alexander the GReat's army from the sky
- A golden age where people could fly in special craft
- A world-wide flood which wiped out most of the giants

All wrong, give me evidence that isn't from a novel or religious text.

*facepalm*

OMG learn your history right!

And novel what? And of course from religious texts, what do you mean? Look, it's history FROM religious texts.

It is not built by <You Know Who>. It is Poseidon.

Pepp, they are THE SAME. =.= I don't want to be rude but the Anunnaki are gods how the Sumerians called them, they are the same as the GReek god, Egyptian gods and most other gods. It are THE GODS. And Enki is the same as Poseidon, also Dagon is the same as Poseidon.

1. Maybe the Patagonian? They have big body alike a giant.
2. It must be a meteor (from an Atheist eye).
3. Comet Halley
4. Meteorites
5. Its today
6. Then the giants move to the mountains, some of them become Yeti of Himalaya.... I think no, I think what did they mean with giants are the big bodied animal, i.e. mammoth, emu, etc.

1. =.= No, real giants, and it was only 1 of them.
2. No, because then there wouldn't be gods coming out of them.
3. No, then it wouldn't be silver and they wouldn't look like birds.
4. No, they constantly flew above them and looked like silver shields, they also attacked them with unknown weapons. Meteorites only fly in 1 direction... And you can't shoot at meteorites with a bow and arrow.
5. No, that doesn't say anything about the golden age in the past, there can be 2 of them.
6. Why the *** would they call big animals: "very large humans with lots of knowledge".

Folklore is the same thing as mythology.

Folklore is in a smaller scale, which makes it less chance of the stories being true, or just accurate (most myths are changed with the ages).

by Yerry Wed 13 Jul 2011 - 0:32

The Cold War! Nuclear Programs and Communists fascinate me.

by Paco the Great Wed 13 Jul 2011 - 2:44

Stalin doesn't fascinate me, he disgusts me.

Viva Trotsky!

by Yerry Wed 13 Jul 2011 - 2:50

Stalin's moustache is all right, but it was Che Guevara who I am more interested in.

by Paco the Great Wed 13 Jul 2011 - 2:51

Yes, I like Guevara.

by arcalion Wed 13 Jul 2011 - 6:23

Yerry wrote:The Cold War! Nuclear Programs and Communists fascinate me.

oh yes!! and the buildings too!

by Losinal Wed 13 Jul 2011 - 23:43

Ok, I think the Dude doesn't want to get me started again on how the Soviets WERE NOT COMMUNISTS! They were clear and utter dictators. Their philosophy wasn't even close t any forms of Communism, Marxian, Leninists. But Stalinist and Maoist Communism strived to far away from the original (And real) Communism that they should be ashamed to call themselves "Communist"

And to stay on topic, Medieval warfare was by far the best, most strategy was put into it, and their soldiers were the only soldiers put to the courage test (With regards to what happened in WW1 and WW2), but Medieval soldiers compared to those brave ones who fought in the world wars were the ones with the most bravery.

by **spangopola** Thu 14 Jul 2011 - 1:11

The fact that there is no Taiwan makes me doubt Newsweek.

by **iliander** Thu 14 Jul 2011 - 2:13

Prehistoric pawns all other.

by Paco the Great Fri 15 Jul 2011 - 5:22

It's not history, and it's crap.

by **iliander** Fri 15 Jul 2011 - 5:34

Everything is history. Rolling Eyes

And saying it's crap is one of the most simple things I've ever heard, sorry.

by Paco the Great Fri 15 Jul 2011 - 5:35

But hardly anything happened that is known of, and it's not history as it was before writing, that's why it's PRE-history.

by Losinal Fri 15 Jul 2011 - 5:36

Everything is history. Even Pre-historic.

by arcalion Fri 15 Jul 2011 - 5:36

that is a good point... is PRE!! before history!! you cant know anything because they hadn´t any write thing!

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